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- 1 jan 2009 09:27 (CET) doorgaande promo campagne cross wiki voor een artiest Guity Novin
- 1 jan 2009 09:27 (CET) Wikipediaan uitschelden voor Taliban lid op overlegpagina
- 1 jan 2009 09:27 (CET) gebruikerspagina van iemand anders (de eigen meatpuppet) Gebruiker:Bamshadan aanmaken
- 1 jan 2009 10:19 (CET) aantasting goede naam van Wikipediaan op deze gebruikerspagina en gescheld
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Guity Novin[brontekst bewerken]
Hallo Tiranious, ik heb je artikel Guity Novin ter beoordeling aan de gemeenschap voorgelegd omdat ik het (in deze vorm) niet geschikt acht voor Wikipedia. Wellicht heb je er iets aan om de conventies door te lezen; daar kun je zien hoe een artikel eruit hoort te zien. Zie ook Help:Waarom staat mijn artikel op de verwijderlijst. Je kunt eventueel commentaar achterlaten op de lijst. Onderteken met vier tildes (~~~~). Veel plezier op Wikipedia! — Zanaq (?) 25 dec 2008 04:58 (CET)
- Hallo Zanaq, Ik heb het artikel bewerkt. Ik hoop dat het is aanvaardbaar nu . Schrijf uw bezwaren op de discussie-pagina. Laat me weten wat zijn de specifieke problemen, en ik zal ofwel corrigeren of verwijderen. Hartelijk dank.--Tiranious 25 dec 2008 20:38 (CET)
Continued promopushing for an artist[brontekst bewerken]
Hello 24.84.245.60 (overleg | bijdragen | verwijderde bijdragen | massaal verwijderen | logboek | blokkeren) or Tiranious (overleg | bijdragen | verwijderde bijdragen | massaal verwijderen | logboek | blokkeren), A checkuser performed this morning upon my request concluded you are one and the same. The checkuser was performed since you tried and retried to place a promotional article on the Dutch languaged Wikipedia and also elsewhere and also asked some one else to assist you via another account, Bamshadan (overleg | bijdragen | verwijderde bijdragen | massaal verwijderen | logboek | blokkeren) which is considered meatpuppetry. This is not considered to be good practice. I explained the proper procedures and ways to act on my talk page. I suggest you adhere to the policies at hand. You can find the explanation on my talk page here and also below now here copied for your convenience. I also place this explanation on the pagina of Bamshadan so he/she is informed as well. Kind regards, 
MoiraMoira overleg 31 dec 2008 10:35 (CET)
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copied from here
Dear Moira,
I am one of the students of Guity Novin, who tried to create an article in Dutch. But it has been deleted. Given that there has been a campaign to eliminate all references to her works in her native land (mainly due to her feminist works), I wonder why her works has been deleted. Respectfully yours.--Tiranious 31 dec 2008 00:40 (CET)
- The page about this person has been removed regularily already after 2 weeks evaluation. Recreating it under another name and pushing it with other accounts not the way to act. The comments on the retried article before it was discovered it had been already removed after evaluation read: "cross-wiki aangemaakt, promo-achtige tekst met mogelijk misbruik van sokpoppen bij verwijderen sjabloon, kreupel machinetaalachtig taalgebruik, geen externe bronnen of referenties die encyclopediewaardigheid ondersteunen, niet neutraal" (translation: made cross-wiki, promotional text with possiblie sockpuppetery/meatpuppetry, pushing on talk page, removal of template, babelfishy language use, no external links or neutral references that sustain notability, not neutral). Also cross-wiki promotion is not the way to achievee acceptance but will result in raised eyebrows wikiwide. The artist in question can read/write Dutch so I suggest she thoroughly reads the f.a.q. on my talk page, butterfly 3. and 5. Please take note that already half of the cross wiki promotion tries with similar accounts and/or IP-adress made (all one-issue contributors) have been removed in the mean time as well. This is not the way to act on Wikipedia I am afraid to say. Wikipedia is not there as a possibility to gain fame or to sell paintings but only to neutrally describe encyclopedically worthwhile topics. The articles created unfortunately did not reflect this at all. Whether this artist deserves a place on Wikipedia is not the question here, the problem was the continuous cross-wiki pushing with substandard promotional articles often without proper content and they were judged not at all to be encyclopedic in content. Also the misuse of more accounts to try to push and keep the articles is not in the best interest of this artist at all I am afraid to conclude. Kind regards,
MoiraMoira overleg 31 dec 2008 09:16 (CET)
- Vow!! you have done a great detective work! But, if you had asked I would have told you that yes my IP is indeed the same as you mentioned, And yes both Bamshadan and I have been classmates at her lectures more than 30 years ago, And yes we think she is a great and notable artist. The only thing that we did not think of: was that in the Netherlands, there are sympathizers like you with the zealots in the caves who think a woman cannot be a painter, and she should not paint a nude woman. Shame. --Tiranious 1 jan 2009 10:05 (CET)
Sockpuppetry update[brontekst bewerken]
I have blocked en:User:Tiranious and en:User:Bamshadan on the English wikipedia as socks of en:User:Artaxerex, who has just returned after a year's ban.[1] My user page en:User:Tyrenius (global account). Tyrenius 15 jan 2009 18:38 (CET)
- Thank you for this update. This is similar to the situation here - you can find the results of the Dutch checkuser performed here. The second IP addie names is a work address at a Canadian bank. So it can be concluded the home address and work address are used. Artaxerex is not a global account (not registered here on nl), the other two are. Kind regards, MoiraMoira overleg 15 jan 2009 19:53 (CET)
Thanks. Would you mind summing up the results here in English for me. Checkuser: Bamshadan and Tiranious are global accounts and confirmed to be the same user? Tyrenius 15 jan 2009 20:10 (CET)