Wikipedia:Visuele tekstverwerker/Feedback/Archief/apr 2015

Rode Linken worden niet getoond in visuele editor

Onbestaande links in de visuele editor worden toch in blauw aangegeven. Beter zou zijn om ze (zoals in de vroegere preview mode) in rood aan te geven...

Het wordt pas duidelijk dat de link niet bestaat wanneer de wijzigingen opgeslagen zijn... Geert Van Pamel (overleg) 14 sep 2013 12:59 (CEST)

Dit was voorheen inderdaad het geval, en dat was erg vervelend. De opmerking dateert uit 2013. Inmiddels is dit geloof ik verholpen. –Frank Geerlings (overleg) 2 apr 2015 12:38 (CEST)

alternatieve tekst bij link

als ik wil linken naar bijv genetica maar het woord "genetisch" wil gebruiken in de tekst, dan kan dat niet eenvoudig. Graag een extra invulbox met mogelijkheid voor alternatieve tekst Josq (overleg) 6 mrt 2015 11:51 (CET)

Hey Josq, there is a field for alternate text in images. Doesn't that work for you? Best, --Elitre (WMF) (overleg) 13 mrt 2015 18:39 (CET)

Ik geloof niet dat deze vraag gaat over afbeeldingen, maar over links in het algemeen. Als je 'genetisch' naar 'Genetica' wil laten wijzen, dan handel je als volgt: Je tikt het woord 'genetisch' en selecteert het. Dan druk je op de link-knop, of je drukt op Ctrl+K (of Cmd+K op een Mac). Daardoor ontstaat een link naar het woord genetisch, maar gelijk verschijnt een popup waar je meteen het woord 'Genetica' kan intikken. Ik denk dat dat eenvoudig genoeg is, dus misschien begrijp ik de opmerking verkeerd? –Frank Geerlings (overleg) 2 apr 2015 12:38 (CEST)

VisualEditor News #2—2015

Did you know?

With Citoid in VisualEditor, you click the 'book with bookmark' icon and paste in the URL for a reliable source:

Citoid looks up the source for you and returns the citation results. Click the green "Insert" button to accept its results and add them to the article:

After inserting the citation, you can change it. Select the reference, and click the "Edit" button in the context menu to make changes.

The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.

The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC). You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal.

Recent improvements

VisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.

The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.

Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.

The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh.

Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.

The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.

You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance ​on the page.

The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu". It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename. The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item.

Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings.

Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead. (T90734)

Looking ahead

The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at mediawiki.org.

The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users at the English Wikipedia, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon. (T90666)

Let's work together

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• File requests for language-appropriate "Vet" and "Cursief" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.

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— Elitre (WMF)

10 apr 2015 21:48 (CEST)

Feedback pages

Hi everybody :) I'm here to suggest that this page gets merged with Wikipedia:Visuele tekstverwerker/Terugkoppeling. The reason is simple - Terugkoppeling is the actual page which people can reach using the feedback tool provided within VE. So we can all follow just one page, and update Wikidata accordingly. Let me know what you think! Best, Elitre (WMF) (overleg) 2 apr 2015 11:14 (CEST)
Nederlandse vertaling: Hoi iedereen. Ik wil voorstellen om deze pagina samen te voegen met Wikipedia:Visuele tekstverwerker/Terugkoppeling. De reden is simpel - Terugkoppeling is juist de pagina die mensen kunnen bereiken met de feedbacktool in VE. Zo hoeven we maar 1 pagina te volgen en Wikidata bij te werken. Laat me weten wat je denkt. Groetjes, Elitre.

 In favour – do remember to merge the archives too though. –Frank Geerlings (overleg) 2 apr 2015 12:43 (CEST)

 Voor - (nl) Twee feedback pagina's voor hetzelfde is inderdaad onoverzichtelijk. Van deze pagina dan een redirect maken naar de andere pagina.
 support (en) Two pages for the same is indeed confusing. After the merger, change this page into a redirect to the other one. Mbch331 (Overleg) 2 apr 2015 12:51 (CEST)

 Opmerking I think merging is something a sysop needs to do, so they'll know what the correct procedure is :) I just needed a quick sanity check before asking a sysop - I'd actually also appreciate if someone did the request on my behalf in Dutch! Elitre (WMF) (overleg) 2 apr 2015 18:58 (CEST)

I translated the request. Mbch331 (Overleg) 2 apr 2015 19:03 (CEST)

Gewoon samenvoegen, dit lijkt me niet iets controversieels. Romaine (overleg) 2 apr 2015 19:13 (CEST)

Is Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Overige the correct venue? --Elitre (WMF) (overleg) 2 apr 2015 19:26 (CEST)

Ping? :) Elitre (WMF) (overleg) 14 apr 2015 16:01 (CEST)

The feedback-link in the Visual Editor is nog changed: MediaWiki:Visualeditor-feedback-link so it comes to this page instead. The reason for this is because this page has all the archives and most of the history. Romaine (overleg) 14 apr 2015 16:58 (CEST)

The contents of Wikipedia:Visuele tekstverwerker/Terugkoppeling have been added to this page. Merging the history of these two pages appears to be broken: phab:T96026. Romaine (overleg) 14 apr 2015 17:02 (CEST)

Whatever works for you. Thanks! Elitre (WMF) (overleg) 15 apr 2015 15:54 (CEST)

History has been merged as far as that's possible. Still some history left at the old page, which can't be merged. Mbch331 (Overleg) 30 apr 2015 17:29 (CEST)